Diskriminasi by azizulhakim

by azizulhakim

assalamualaikum...
aku nak bg pendapat sket la ek...
anda semua bercakap tentang diskriminasi kan..
ni yang aku baca kat myspace-

http://www.myspace.com/cintaitubuta

"Kawan-kawan,

So I heard that HUJAN akan main kat Sunburst KL. Gig ni agak besar sebab international act macam Incubus pun akan main kat situ. Seperti mana yang kita sedia maklum, HUJAN tu homophobic. So, kita kenalah buat sesuatu untuk at least ban them daripada main kat gig tu. What is more interesting is that sunburst ni ada forum. So bolehlah kita ramai-ramai jamkan forum dia. Cinta itu buta ada account sendiri, dan I have started jammin their forum. Lantaklah post je yang diorang tu homophobic kat semua topic."

ape ni semua?
anda semua marah sbb kami yg normal ni mendiskriminasi anda?
TIDAK!
kami sikit pun tak benci kat korang semua...
kami hanya kecewa sbb anda semua terlibat dgn benda2 (homogaysbian)ni...
dan kami sedaya upaya nak kembalikan anda semua ke jalan yg benar...
mmg kami akui..kami ni bukannya bagus sgt nak ckp camni...
kami juga lakukan dosa...
anda betul...
dan kita juga sesama manusia perlu tolong menolong..tak kiralah kami ni byk dosa ke tak...
bukannya kami ajak anda semua buat dosa...
kami ingin sedarkan anda...
itulah apa yg kami sedang lakukan skrg ini...
sbb tu kami semua post catatan2 sebegini...
kalau kami diam..maknanya kami tak prihatin...

skrg aku nak masuk plak bab
HUJAN DAN HOMOGAYSBIAN...
sepanjang aku kenal dgn hujan ni..dan aku sertai banyak pertunjukan mereka...
aku sikit pun tak dgr yg mereka kata "BENCILAH GOLONGAN HOMO!"
blog hujan?sikit pun tak tulis "MARILAH BENCI GOLONGAN HOMO"
bulletin?mmg tak pernah langsung mereka post "MARI DISKRIMINASI GOLONGAN HOMO"...
tapi apa yg aku tgk skrg...
golongan homogaysbian ni semua yg mendiskriminasi hujan!
sampai nak ban hujan drpd perform di mana2 show?
ape ni semua?
aku tak pernah plak pegi show hujan ade signboard tulis
"GOLONGAN HOMO TAK DIBENARKAN MASUK"
and sekarang Central Market dah banned HUJAN...
and sampai skrg...takde satu statement pun yg hujan tulis pasal perkara ni...ada mereka marah?
buktikan weh~

persoalannya sekarang?
siapa yang MENDISKRIMINASI siapa?
adakah anda semua dah menjadi HUJANPHOBIA?

kalau mmg anda HUJANPHOBIA...
syabas kepada hujan krn hujan mmg terbukti telah mencipta satu fenomena baru...

ingat..kami tak benci anda...
atau adakah anda yg membenci kami?

--

HomoGaysbian by Benda Aneh

http://bendaaneh.blogspot.com/2008/02/salahkah-mereka.html

Again, my current favorite site, Boikotlah! came up with another post and this time around, it revolves around Homosexuality and (again) Hujan. Again, I am not standing by any side here. Neutralist, I am. But I think, instead of seeing things from one perspective, let's tilt our head into a different direction. We have heard what the pejuang hak homoseksual have to say. And now, let us hear what a Homo herself have to say.

FYI people, this is NOT my own writing. It's merely an excerpt of my all time favorite non-fiction, I Am Muslim written by Dina Zaman. I just find it irresistable for me to type it all, bit-by-bit, after reading the recent posting in Boikotlah!

I Am Muslim is one hell of a good book and if you still have even an itsy bitsy passion for reading, spending RM30 is nothing compared to what you will gain by buying this magnificent writing from Dina Zaman.

This excerpt for me, will answer to all prejudice and EVEN the non-prejudice.



I did communicate with one reader. She kindly agreed to the email interview
below:

When did you realize you were gay? Were you conscious of it?
Did you know what it was?

To be honest I don’t really know if I am gay. I know I am attracted to women, sometimes emotionally, sometimes physically. More than I am attracted to men, that’s for sure, although I wont deny I am attracted to men too. Being with women makes me feel safer, makes me feel more confident. Men just… scare me. On some level I suppose I’ve always known, on another I’ve been in denial. In terms of accepting it as a fact of life, I don’t think I’ve even accepted that word: gay.

I just tell my friends- those who know lah, and there are not that many- I’m not quite so straight. I went to an all girls’ boarding school; but I was sort of popular,
was a school jock, I got girls then. But I figured that it was just a phase, you
read a lot about it in books about growing up, about attachment to members of
the same sex, and they say it’s normal. Ten years after high school and you’re
still stuck in that place, you start thinking, are this still a phase, or are
you not quite who people think you are?

What is your background? How were you brought up?

My background- middle class suburban Malay, I live in a predominantly Malay area. I come form a very religious background, but very liberal as well. My parents made sure I kept to my five prayers, I don’t drink, and I don’t do the normal KL lifestyle thing: no dancing, no clubbing. Worst of my vices is probably teh tarik.

But my parents taught us to be open-minded; we read a lot, we were allowed to ask
questions and often were given straight answers. They also operated on the basis
of trust- they just assumed we told the truth at all times. I spent my childhood
abroad, then boarding school, then abroad again.

How do you feel now? What is your struggle like?

Most of the time, confused. I am trying to define who I am, not just in the eyes of the world, but in the eyes of god. I talk to some people, they say to me, if you’re gay, you’re gay, just embrace it. I can’t; I think a lot about religion. It’s clear that no
conventional religion in the world accepts homosexuality, not just those of the
Abrahamic tradition. That underlines to me how wrong this is the eyes of religion.

I know it’s the 21st century, I know religion is uncool, but I am a Muslim. I say the Syahadah, I submit, so I play by the rules. That is my commitment. I don’t own my life, god does. But I also have human needs; I want to be in a relationship, I am a sappy romantic at heart despite my exterior. I see people walking together holding hands, I want that too. But with whom? If it’s another girl, then what am I risking? Where is the line that religion draws? Therein lies the conflict.

You mentioned once you may just succumb to that life and then repent. What’s stopping you?

The fact that I might not be led back to repent. It’s easy when you say it, Alah tua nanti aku taubat la (I’ll repent when I’m older) but how do you know for sure that you will be led back? There are no certainties in life; and my fear lies in the fact that I would be so lost; I can never find my way back. So I try to keep on the straight and narrow, hard as it may be. Spiritual aspects of my life mean a lot more to me than the here and now.

Obviously wearing the hijab is not a deterrent. How do you reconcile with the image and perception? Do you feel guilty?

I think wearing the hijab has deterred me from a few things. While I’ve accepted
the fact that I am not as straight as people think I am, I’ve never done
anything about it. I’ve not actually pursued a relationship with another woman,
for instance, since I left school. I’ve thought about it, obviously, but wearing the hijab somehow reminds me that I am a Muslim first, and if Islam prohibits this there must be a reason why, even though sometimes it may not make sense to me. ‘Islam itu syumul, kita yang tak’ is what I say to myself a lot. I don’t go out to gay bars, I don’t seek out woman to date, I don’t do personal ads.

Internally there is a lot of conflict between the person people think I am, and who I am learning to accept myself to be. Because of my religious upbringing, people sometimes ask me stuff about fadhu ain, hukum hakam agama (the basics and principles of religion), and also sometimes I get asked to lead prayers (women only congregations, I am no Amina Wadud!) I haven’t done that in a long while, though, I keep fighting with myself, because I am unclear how Islam views someone like me: admittedly not straight but not living a homosexual lifestyle either. Am I living in sin? Who can I ask about this, I have no idea.

I read a lot, and the advice seems to circulate around the fact that if I don’t want to go to hell then I should repent, leave behind the lifestyle and get married. I have no ‘lifestyle’ to leave behind- I think I am a pretty conservative modern Muslim. As for
marriage, it’s all fine and dandy, but if men just don’t do it for me, then what
on earth would marriage be for me and whoever my husband will be, if not one
massive heartbreak?

As for guilt- in the beginning there was a lot of guilt. I wasn’t quite sure where I stood in the eyes of god. I felt very distant from god for a while, even though I was still praying and reading the Quran as I always had. I thought a lot, and then I asked, what sin have I committed?

If I felt a certain way towards women, then there must be a reason- be it psychological or biological, I’ve never really wondered about which- but there must be a reason: something as simple as this being a test from Him. Nowadays I am trying to regain the closeness with Him I once felt.

Can you live with a woman and not have sex?

I suppose. But if I fancied this woman, and there are feelings, even if I’d never
act on it, there would be a lot of associated guilt. I’d want to clear this with
scholars first. If Islam allowed it, then I’d have no problem with it. I’ve
never had sex before, so I don’t really know what I’m missing, ha ha.

Can you live with a man?

If I trusted him, yes. If he can accept me warts and all, then yes. But again, this is not something tried and tested. I am open to the idea of living with a man; but when push comes to shove, I still don’t know. I am uncomfortable with the idea of marriage in Malay society- the man as the provider, the woman as the carer; I’m not sure I fit
that mould.

What is stopping you? Really.

Religion. I live my life by the rules of religion. What religion allows, I do, what it
disallows, I try and stay clear.

How would you advise other women? Do you have friends that are like you?

I don’t even know if I am sin the right place to advise anyone, given my own state of mind. I think sexuality is something very personal; I am not in the right place to judge how others should react towards theirs. I’ve never really asked my friends if they are gay. Those that are, seem to be comfortable with their lifestyles as gay men
and women. But there must be other like me, I can’t be the only one, I’m not
THAT special.

If you could have anything, if you could put religion aside, would you embrace your homosexuality?

That’s a very big if. I can’t ever put religion aside, so there is really no question about that. But if religion allowed it- then bring it on! Look out girls, ha ha ha.

It is said that the Quran clearly states that gay men are to be abhorred but there is no mention of lesbianism. What do you say?

I think homosexuality is homosexuality. It may refer to gay men, but that may just
be translation and the use of the male nouns and verbs; I think it still applies
to women. Although I know in syariah law, women who sleep with other women isn’t
punished as severely as men- something about keeping them captive until they see
the error of their ways, or something like that. Hey, if there is a loophole
somewhere… I am all ears!


At the end of the day, one may question one’s self: does sexuality choose you or do you choose who you want to be?

Golongan Seksualiti Songsang

Assalamualaikum.

Kini, isu dalam bloggers ni semakin menunjukkan ke'negatif'an kearah yg menggugat soal agama dan peribadi.

Izinkan aku memberi kata hujah yg boleh dijadikan fakta untuk kita memilih "TIDAK" kepada homoseksual, gay, dan lesbian.

Membaca post KUDETA tu.. aku menarik nafas panjang..
Tak dinafikan ada ramai golongan homoseksual, gay dan lesbian di Malaysia. Beginilah, aku sakit hati nak tulis panjang2 akan golongan 'homoseksual,gay dan lesbian'. Izinkan aku menulis mreka sebagai golongan 'seksualiti songsang'.

Kerana? mereka berbeza dari manusia normal. Sepatutnya jika mereka dilahirkan lelaki, jadilah dan berusahalah menjadi lelaki. Jika dilahirkan perempuan, jadilah dan berusahalah menjadi perempuan. Tetapi, golongan seksualiti songsang ini yg dilahirkan lelaki, tetapi berusaha menjadi seorang perempuan. yg dilahirkan perempuan, berusaha menjadi lelaki.

itu pasal pondan dan bapuk la. tentang golongan seksual songsang ni. Normalnya, kalau dah dinamakan lelaki, nafsu rasa keinginan seks semestinya terhadap perempuan. kalau perempuan, totally nafsu dan keinginan seks terhadap lelaki. tapi, golongan songsang seksualiti ini berbeza dari kita yg normal. mereka tiap kali membantah bahawa mereka betul dan normal. persoalannya, adakah kita yg normal ni 'tidak normal' dan 'tak betulkah apa yg kita ingin tegur mereka'? Adakah aku yg lelaki ini, yg ada keinginan seks dengan perempuan (heteroseksual)boleh dikatakan sebagai tidak betul/tak normal? tak semestinya kalau aku heteroseksual, aku akan fuck mana2 perempuan suka2 hati. Aku ada agama, akan aku lakukan seks selepas berkahwin. jika aku melakukan seks sebelum kahwin sekalipun, perlu ke aku jaja apa yg aku lakukan pada semua org dengan tayang poster pada public yang: "aku heteroseksual yg lakukan seks sebelum berkahwin, jangan diskriminasi aku" itu kerja kurang cerdik kan? dosa/keaiban tu biarlah aku, teman seks aku dan Tuhan yg tahu. tak perlu nk bgtau org len. Aib dan memalukan. tapi golongan seksual nih? jaja sana sini mengatakan mereka betul, siap buat perhimpunan sedunia lagi. Unite.. unite.. (Aduh!) tak tahulah jika itu bukan perkara memalukan untuk mereka.. (sedihnya..)
Faktanya: Manusia pertama dicipta iaitu Adam(lelaki) mempunyai rasa keinginan seks terhadap Hawa(perempuan). Realitinya, sejak beratus ribu tahun heteroseksual wujud. mengapah perlu ada homoseksual? bgaimana dengan golongan songsang seksualiti ni? mereka normalkah? tepuk hati, tanya akal.

kini, aku tak mahu menggunakan hujah dari segi agama. kerana permintaan syazsy yang ingin mengasingkan agama dan demokrasi. 'lagipun, aku tahu, kalau aku gunakan hujah agama, tentu sama juga kesanya. yalah, sejak 1970 para ulama dan cendekiawan menggunakan hujah agama untuk menerangkan bahawa homoseksual, gay dan lesbian adalah salah, TETAP juga golongan seksualiti songsang BERTAMBAH!

mari kita fikirkan ini. jika golongan seksualiti ini katakan pada kita apa yg mereka lakukan adalah hak mereka dan betul sebagai 'demokrasi'. ternyata mereka silap, demokrasi.. memang lebih menjerumus erti kebebasan sepenuhnya. TETAPI, setiap demokrasi secara realitinya berdasarkan undang-undang. kerana demokrasi sendiri dibentuk dari Undang-undang.
Fakta: Dimanakah undang2 kita, jika kita adalah rakyat malaysia tulen? jawapanya: RUKUNEGARA. itulah demokrasi kita, demokrasi yg kita patuhi. demokrasi yg kita bentuk melalui undang-undang (RUKUNEGARA)untuk harmonikan demokrasi kita.
itu soal negara lah. sekarang isu ni berkaitan golongan seksualiti songsan ni boleh dikaitkan bahawa 'apa yang golongan seksualiti songsang ni bercanggah dengan rukunegara ketiga dan kelima iaitu 'kedaulatan undang-undang' dan 'kesopanan dan kesusilaan'.

mengapa aku katakan begitu? yalah, memang dah perbuatan seksualiti songsang tu melanggar undang-undang di malaysia. jadi apahal golongan tu nak kaitkan demokrasi? Hak asasi manusia? dgr nih.. Menurut undang-undang Hak Asasi Manusia, semua manusia adalah sama, tidak kira lelaki atau perempuan dibolehkan tentang kahwin sesama jenis di mana kelompok-kelompok gay dan lesbian?? (ADUH!! aku rasa ni dah melampau) Hak Asasi Manusia tu yg tulis, Elton John kot?)

hah, tu hak asasi yang golongan tu nak dan perjuangkan. nak tau apa yg aku(golongan normal) nak perjuangkan tentang masalh nih? "Kami sakit mata dan sakit hati dengan sifat seksualiti songsang kamu! Sila ubah diri kamu sebelum kami sendiri yang mengubah diri kamu. Kamu mengganggu hak asasi kami yang ingin jalankan kehidupan masyarakat normal!"

Apa yang aku katakan tadi bertepatan juga dengan rukunegara kelima, kesopanan dan kesusilaan.
Sesungguhnya, menjadi homoseksual, gay dan lesbian adalah tidak menepati kesusilaan malaysia dan adat timur. apa yg golongan seksualiti songsang tu perjuangkan adalah budaya negatif org barat. majoriti org barat sendiri menentang homo, gay dan lesbian. yg kita kat malaysia dok kurang cerdik pi sokong buat apa?? pi la menentang, bersuara! kalau kita diam diri, bermakna kita menyokong golongan seksualiti songsang nih.. bermakna kita dah lari dari asas kehidupan, lari dari pegangan hidup, lari dari tuntutan agama. kita menganuti agama bukan setakat untuk percaya kewujudan tuhan. tetapi, kita menganuti agama kerana kita nak melakukan perkara yang baik. persoalannya, homoseksual, gay dan lesbian tu perkara baik ke? boleh ke perlakuan tu memberi kehidupan yg sempurna? tanpa diganggu? tanpa dicerca? jika kita jadi normal, ada ke org nak kutuk kita jadi normal? ada org persoalkan? TIADA.. (maaf, termasuk hujah agama) sesungguhnya agama dan kehidupan sebenarnya tidak boleh dipisahkan.. begitu juga agama dan demokrasi syazsy

Nah, ni aku bg petikan dari Paderi Kristian yg beri pendapat tentang masalah homoseksual, gay dan lesbian. ko xnak kaitkn agama kau sendiri kan dalam masalah ni? aku kaitkan agama lain k? ---(untuk org islam)weh! org bukan islam sendiri tentang, apahal kau org islam kau nak menyokong homoseksual, gay dan lesbian?? Sedarkan diri kau.

Setiausaha Agung Persatuan Gereja Evangelical Malaysia, Reverend Wong Kim Kong juga menegaskan bahawa homoseksual adalah bertentangan dengan ajaran Kristian.

Malah menurut beliau, berdasarkan ajaran kitab Injil, Tuhan tidak mengiktiraf homoseksual, kerana setiap sesuatu itu dijadikan berpasang-pasangan.

``Kitab Injil mengajar penganut Kristian bahawa Tuhan menjadikan setiap makhluk itu dalam dua jantina iaitu lelaki dan wanita,'' katanya Kiranya.. pendapat aku, semua agama melarang homoseksual, gay dan lesbian. yg menghalalkan sebegitu kebanyakkan adalah golongan freethinker.(tanpa agama)

Sumber: Bernama. tarikh: tahun lepas!

P/S: (untuk org islam)jangan pulak aku bg hujah Kristian, ko nak tukar agama plak! jentik baru tau.
P/S:apa yg aku hujahkan semua ni bukan bermakna aku menyokong apa yg Noh Hujan kata. Aku tau Noh, dia seorang yang agak warak. bg dia hiburan yg dia lakukan adalah kepuasan yang ingin dia kecapi. itu jalan yg dia inginkan, selagi dia tak langgar norma manusia dan pegangan agama, biarkan Noh dengan impiannya. Lagipun, takde pon dalam al-quran kata muzik/berhibur itu haram. nak nyanyi nasyid? tak semestinya Hujan perlu nyanyi nasyid baru boleh 'talk' pasal agama lah, asalkan lagu Hujan kini tu tak agungkan kejahatan, tak puja perkara mungkar(homoseksual, gay dan lesbian). Hujan boleh teruskan berkarya. walaubagaimanapun, pasal suka sama jantina, menyerupai jantina berbeza dah memang sah tertulis nyata DIHARAMKAN dalam al-quran.
p/s: label perempuan sbg .'awek-awek' dikatakan diskriminasi? itu bukan diskriminasi lah tolol! tu masalah bahasa rojak/pasar. maksudnya tetap juga sama, perempuan!

kesimpulannya? katakan "TIDAK" kepada homoseksual, gay dan lesbian. dan, hentikan alasan/sebab NALURI bahawa mereka golongan seksualiti songsang jadi sebegitu. Kita ada akal, sepatutnya akal kita melebihi nafsu dan naluri. Kini mereka berbeza, naluri mereka melebihi akal yg diberikan. 'Kurang Cerdik'!

February 17, 2008 10:11 AM